Now she's thrown shade on Wellington. Oh, the horror!
Historian Lucy Worsley says the Battle of Waterloo was a victory for Europe, it’s time this broadside at Wellington’s triumph met its Waterloo
"It was Napoleon who fought for ‘Europe’, not Wellington."
Lucy Worsley..... Daily Mail.... Nothing to see. Move on
You forgot Sandbrook...
@tomholmberg Actually, no.
Historian Lucy Worsley says the Battle of Waterloo was a victory for Europe, it’s time this broadside at Wellington’s triumph met its Waterloo
is not the same as:
DOMINIC SANDBROOK: As historian Lucy Worsley says the battle was a victory for Europe, it’s time this broadside at Wellington’s triumph met its Waterloo
Or do I misunderstand it.
I got the impression that Dominic while aiming the left, shoots his right foot, by having so many wrongs.
I would like to propose: Wellington decided the outcome of the war, not the british. Without Wellington they didn't manage to win a single enterprise on main land. TOTAL DISASTER (as Trump would phrase it) from 1793 to 1814.
I left Sandbrook off the abstract because I assumed, unless you're in the UK, you have no idea who he is (you might probably not know who Worsley is either, for that matter).
@tomholmberg Few allegations of plagiarism floating around him according to Wiki. He defended his work by calling it populist history. 🤦♂️
@tomholmberg Hello, I am not in the UK and I had no clue who Sandbrook is (but I do have access to the world wide web), but it makes a difference whether Lucy says: 'the battle was a victory for Europe, it’s time this broadside at Wellington’s triumph met its Waterloo' or Sandbrook says: 'As historian Lucy Worsley says the battle was a victory for Europe, it’s time this broadside at Wellington’s triumph met its Waterloo'. Your abstract suggests Lucy should stop critizing Wellington herself. A self fulfilling prophecy Sandbrook's?
In my opinion Sandbrooks finds here his Waterloo as an historian, since all he seems to knows about Waterloo comes from that Ladybird book. (I have it here in my collection ;-))
He is right about Germans und Dutchmen in the british army, BUT at Waterloo Wellington was in command of a british army and a dutch army, and there were even more troops from Germany (Bremen, Hannover). It was not a british army. And so far all credits to Lucy Worsley!! (The dutch army had Walloons, Flemings and Dutchmen.)
Nothing attempting to link Lucy Worsley with "history" is worth a farthing. She is no historian.
I've read a few of Sandbrook's books, so arguing who's the "real" historian between them is a fruitless endeavor. They are both "presenters" of history, and I suspect Sandbrook is jealous of Worsley's popularity. As a TV presenter Worsley is entertaining. All we need now is for Simon Schama to weigh in with his two farthings.
@tomholmberg The Right On Simon Shama 🤦♂️
(For non-Brits, Right Hon. is short for Right Honourable, a status title given to senior politicians and others).
@Maggie Scott
Wikipedia says: "She read Ancient and Modern History at New College, Oxford, graduating in 1995 with a BA First-class honours degree." So it would seem she is an historian.
I thought you were going to say she had dressed up as N and ponced about at Waterloo. Merde! Fortunately, the second of the three populist clowns has just met his Waterloo - just one to go (as Wellington might have said).
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"I thought you were going to say she had dressed up as N and ponced about at Waterloo."
I'd watch that, but more likely she'd ponce about as a British aide-de-camp. That seems more up her usual SOP.
https://twitter.com/PHMMcr/status/1327235922711244801/photo/2
https://youtu.be/qt3eyeO0R94
I don't watch a Worsley production for much serious insight, more a basic primer and a little light relief. However, I sometimes find her constant dressing up a bit distracting. I get the impression she is a frustrated actor, so perhaps Cambridge and the footlights should have been more her thing?
All history, and particularly popular history, uses the lens of modern society. Perhaps therefore her and Dominics comments should be seen in the light of the Brexit schism.