Hello everyone,
After reaching my research material limit for the Battle of Thann, I have moved on to the Combat of Dunzling (Peysing) with General de Division Montbrun Light Cavalry Division and the 7e Legere. We are lucky to have the 5e and 7e Hussrds regiment histories found below.
5e Hussards
https://play.google.com/books/reader?id=9Sm0ZetZOHgC&pg=GBS.PA94
7e Hussards https://play.google.com/books/reader?id=2aVkdf8TmVUC&pg=GBS.PA260
However, we are also lucky to have a few biographies with some great small details from General Montbrun and Pajol. Also, we have a great memoir by Hippolyte d'Espinchal, who was a Capit. Adj. Maj. of the 5e Hussards. He was in constant contact with his Colonel d'Hery or Dery and well versed in the numbers of men per squadron and such administrative duties. So my question is do we believe d'Espinchal who was at the combat, or do we believe the detailed work by Martinien and the regimental history? I would usually say using both is the way to go, but some details do not match.
According to d'Espinchal, Colonel Dery was seriously wounded and forced to relieve command of the regiment on April 19th. He later writes Colonel Dery was forced to wear his arm in a sling. This shows nowhere in multiple secondary sources on the campaign or on his service record.
d'Espinchal cites 5 officers wounded, 9 NCO's and hussards killed, 13 wounded.
Martinien cites 3 officers wounded and the regimental history cites 3 wounded officers (no Colonel), and 3 Nco's and soldiers wounded, and 2 killed hussards.
3. Even the Austrian sources such as Binder's Krieg 1809 does not mention Colonel Dery's wounding as well as multiple Austrian regimental histories.
Below is what I have so far,
5e Hussards
Officers: 3 (1) WIA
NCO's & Soldiers: 6 KIA, 13 WIA, 1 POW
NCO's & Soldiers Killed in Action:
Hussard Giordanino
Hussard Micot
Officers Wounded in Action:
Colonel Pierre Cesar Dery (D'Hery)*
S. Lieut. Georges Richardot: Saber cut on the right hand
S. Lieut. Arre Epinat: Shot that smashed the left leg
S. Lieut. Devaud Armand Gondoin: A sabre cut to the head and two to the arms
NCO's & Soldiers Wounded:
Adjudant Sous-Officier Jean Engelbert Vollet: Saber cut to the head, right hand, and a dislocated shoulder; taken prisoner (returned 04/20/1809)
Marechal des logis-chef Charles Françcois Auguste Kauffer: Shot in the left side
Hussard Acker: Saber cut to the face
Thank you for the help,
Michael
Hello everyone,
I have an interesting update on the case of wounding of Colonel Dery on 19 April 1809. First I will provide all of the secondary sources and then the primary sources below.
Let's start with Martinien work on French Officer Casualities from the Napoleonic War. Neither his first or second volume show that Dery was wounded during the 1809 campaign.
Next, we will take a look at the regimental history published in 1889 by chef d'escadron DE CASTILLON DE SAINT-VICTOR who served in the regiment. He wrote his history according to official documents taken from the Archives of the Ministry of War. He writes below of the combat and mentions nothing about the Colonel being wounded.
Looking at the third secondary source, we find in his Fastes de la légion-d'honneur Tome IV there is no mention again of any wound in 1809. It even says in 1809, the campaigne provided him with new opportunities to stand out. However, our next two sources will not only tell us that he was woudned, but he wound was so serious he had to be taken to the rear and who have to wear his arm in a sling. We are not told if it is was from a gunshot or saber wound.
Our first primary source will has already been mentioned, but I will provide a snippet of the report from General Montbrun written directly after the battle at 7PM on 19 April 1809 found in Saski Tome II. Montbrun's report is the closest to the event and should be taken as truth.
However, it is also good to find confirmation somewhere else and we are given it by two officers of the 5e Hussards. One who has a well known memoir and the other who I recently found while doing research on the 5e Hussards in Base Leonore. We will take a look Hippolyte d’Espinchal's transalted account of the battle.
Our brave colonel was seriously wounded there, as well as five officers and twenty-two hussars, nine of whom remained on the spot. For its part, the enemy lost many people and especially in pursuit of the 7th Hussars. General Montbrun displayed in this brilliant combat a valor and a talent which earned him the esteem and admiration of the troops; he had a horse killed under him by a ball, and General Pajol, sabering like a simple hussar, received a slight wound in the arm.
In d'Espinchal's memoirs, he mentions something very intersting and somewhat hard to believe. Below is the translation of what occurred after the batt
During the day we had the sad news that the detachment under the command of Commander Hirn, responsible for communicating with Marshal Davout, had suffered great losses and that its brave leader had been killed by a cannonball. This loss was all the more noticeable to us as the colonel's absence was going to leave the regiment under the command of a squadron leader who had just arrived in the corps and who, in the battle at Peysing, had shown such pusillanimity that the whole body of officers had unanimously declared him unworthy of command; General Pajol, sharing this opinion, declared that he would command the regiment until the return of the colonel, whose absence could not be long, having sent word that he hoped to join us soon, although forced to have his arm in the air. scarf. As for the squadron commander, he was immediately sent to the depot in France, under the pretext of organizing the reinforcements which were to arrive; but, before his departure, it was a second lieutenant of the regiment who informed him, in the name of all the officers, that if he did not take off the white pelisse he would be denounced to the Emperor, and we heard no more talk.
This seems very odd that a regiment who just lost its commanding officer, senior squadron commander and was in front of the enemy would willingly send another senior officer to the depot to bring back reinforcements. If this is true, it would leave the regiment with only 1 senior officer to command all three squadrons. Most likely this could easily have been done by a younger officer. However, we are given confirmation of d'Espinal's words. Below is a letter from Chef d'escadron Pierre de Saint-Perin, recently promoted fomer Capitaine from the 13e Chasseurs a Cheval. He states in a letter written on 20 May 1809 in Hamburg, Germany advancing himself for the Legion d'honneur that he is in route to rejoin the regiment in Erfurth. We know from the regimental history that the depot is found in Namur, meaning if Saint-Perrin left Teugen-Hausen area on April 19-20th and traveled directly to Namur, then Hamburg, and then finally to Erfurt, he would be making a 1,702 Km round trip ride. From the date of his letter on May 20 1809, he was about 363 km away from his final destination in Erfurth (Erfurt). His Base Leonore file https://www.leonore.archives-nationales.culture.gouv.fr/ui/notice/335558#spotlight
Not only are we able to back up d'Espinchal's claim about an officer who was sent away, but we can also back up the claim that Colonel Dery was wounded in the first battle of the campaign from another letter by Saint-Pern dated 7 September 1809 in Brunn. He states that "I command the regiment throughout the campaign (Colonel having been wounded in the 1st battle). I have conducted myself with valor and honor." He signed the document Lt. Colonel commanding in interm the 5e Hussards.
So to sum it all up, Colonel Dery was wounded on April 19th 1809, and we are given three eye witness statements to back up this claim from General Montbrun, commanding officer of the 3e Corps Light Cavalry, d'Espinchal, Lt. of the 5e Hussards, and Saint-Pern, chef d'escadron of the 5e Hussards.
Michael
Thanks where can I find those reports ??
I found this is Saski Volume 2 page 263,
Les colonels Dery, du 5° hussards, et Lamaire, du 7° d'infanterie légère, ont été blessés; comme leurs troupes, ils se sont distingués.
So it seems other secondary sources on the campaign just missed this information.
Btw, Saski's book with Colonel Meda's after action reports are just amazing to read.
Michael
I agree your hard work is highly appreciated also that you generously share it.
Strange that this not mentioned in control's or like Six
Thank you for the link! It is on bottom page 231 to top of page 232.
Here a link for download
Hans-Karl,
I unfortantely do not have tome 1 of his memoirs, but on the 5e Hussards of Frederic Berjaud website, cites d'Espinchal for April 19th, 1809,
Ce combat meurtrier eut le double avantage de tenir en échec un corps considérable qui se dirigeait sur Ratisbonne et de protéger la marche de flanc de la division Friant qui cherchait à faire sa jonction avec le maréchal Davout mais il coûta cher aux deux partis. Notre brave colonel y fut grièvement blessé, ainsi que cinq officiers et vingt-deux hussards, dont neuf restèrent sur place. De son côté, l'ennemi perdit beaucoup de monde et surtout dans la poursuite du 7e Hussards. Le général Montbrun déploya dans ce brillant combat une valeur et un talent qui lui méritèrent l'estime et l'admiration des troupes; il eut un cheval tué sous lui par un boulet, et le général Pajol, sabrant comme un simple hussard, reçut une légère blessure au bras.
Sur les quatre heures après midi, nous passâmes tranquillement un défilé par une pluie battante, ayant à notre tête le général Montbrun qui voulut fort galamment remplacer le colonel Dery transporté sur les derrières avec les autres blessés.
http://frederic.berjaud.free.fr/Hussards%2005/05eHussards.htm
Thanks again to share your work, on what page of the souvenirs of Espinchal did you find that?
I skimmed through, but seemingly overlooked it, but found other interesting stories, such as general N... ordered Espinchal to shoot some Austrian prisoners of war, S.273
I also did not find that Dery received a wound, looking at Six.